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this is my piece on abortion

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update: oct 24 2007
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Given 2006-09-08
abortion by *movieaddict Not sure about the title ... not sure how i read into the title given the photo's content ... but I like the photo! ( Suggested by endraum and Featured by cweeks )
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LopsidedFrosty345 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2017
Questions will not be answered. It is complicated really.  The abortion will be more torture for the woman if she was raped. The torture will continue. Abortion does not solve rape it only prolongs the pain.
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LopsidedFrosty345 Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2017
Nice work.
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Paraceratherium Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
When science finally develops the artificial womb (and it will happen) the abortion debate can hopefully be laid to rest. What makes someone human is the ability to choose. You want a juvenile human produced within a female human or use an artificial womb, that's your choice. As for those who thinks it's gross and start a movement to ban the procedure, you can all go fuck yourselves and focus on your own personal problems. Idiots like yourselves always want to bowl civilization back to the dark ages.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ectogene…
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artifici…
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LopsidedFrosty345 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2017
Abortion should be banned.
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If you had actually read through my comment, it was about medical technologies under development to reduce the need for abortions.

Anti-abortionists who oppose ectogenesis will expose their hypocrisy! It was never about saving a fetus, but it was all about oppressing women all along! So what if a woman or couple decides to incubate their fetus in a machine. It's their choice! Live with it! If someone doesn't like it, then they can choose not to do it. To hell with any nonsense over what is natural or unnatural and whether it's the slap in the "face" of some imaginary sublime "authority".

www.telegraph.co.uk/science/20…
www.geneticliteracyproject.org…
www.iamnotthebabysitter.com/re…
www.newsweek.com/fetuses-artif…
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LopsidedFrosty345 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2017
Oh. Okay.
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joeisbadass Featured By Owner Jan 24, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Can I submit this to my political group?
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Senna369 Featured By Owner Sep 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

I think basically this is saying that those who abort are blind to the truth of what they're doing? I mean, if they knew, they wouldn't be doing it.

Sounds about right?

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sasphoto-96 Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013
really thought-provoking!
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justforfungirl Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012   Traditional Artist
Abortion steals men's right to be fathers... they have no say and this image portrays that strikingly
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Katweet Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012  Student General Artist
ok i don't normally get into arguments on this type of deviation but

Umm, what? Steals men's rights to be fathers? Are you fucking dense?

Look, women aren't just walking wombs. It is the woman's decision to abort, NOT the man's, because the man doesn't have to carry around a literal dictionary parasite that does fucked up things to your body and makes you a crazy, depressed, hungry monster for the better part of a year, and then spend another 20 caring for the resulting child. Women get to choose to be parents when they decide whether or not to have an abortion. Men get to choose to be parents when they decide they want to stay with the woman and be a father.
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catz537 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you, smart person
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DreamLandWarrior Featured By Owner Sep 22, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
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justforfungirl Featured By Owner Dec 22, 2012   Traditional Artist
I'm sorry but you are mistaken about several things in this post. I don't really want to argue here but if you like I can elaborate. Have a good day.
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blomn Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2012
I need to have some answers to how to reply to this.
So, my friend and I are still in school, but we debate politics during lunch. She is pro-Obama, so I end up sounding pro-Romney even though I'm not. Anyway, we were recently shouting at the table and I brought up abortion and how Romney is against abortion (according to my dad, because I never watch debates). She said people should be able to abort children because if someone was raped, and they got pregnant, they wouldn't want to have a child. I disagreed and pointed out--in a poorly thought-out attempt-- rapists shouldn't even exist, but if they do, then they should at least use protection. She said protection doesn't always work--and I know that-- but I need a better answer on how to reply to "People should be able to abort children because if someone was raped, and they got pregnant, they wouldn't want to have a child." If you have any good ideas on how to reply back to this, please tell me.
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NinjaWereWulf Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
here's some help for you:

1) there are other alternatives to abortion... like adoption.
2) why should one heinous crime lead to another? (i.e. rape lead to the killing of an innocent unborn child)
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PerspectiveGhost2 Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for wonderful logic.
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NinjaWereWulf Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
you're welcome (^^,)
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blomn Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Her answers to both(I thought of them during lunch of that day, too):
1) "Because if the child isn't adopted, where does it go? An orphanage. And what happens to some children in an orphanage? They get left at the orphanage their whole lives. And now there are too many children and too little orphanages."

2) "Do you want a child's mother to look at the child and see their rape replaying in their mind? I would hope not. A child born of a rape is just a child that brings bad memories to the mother. And why should rape even happen?"
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NinjaWereWulf Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
1) first of all, there are PLENTY of GOOD, HONEST, HARD-WORKING couples that through no fault of their own, cannot have children... the problem isn't the children-parent ratio... it's the BUREAUCRACY that keeps kids orphanages.

The PRIME example of this is China. In China, there is a one-child policy... China is fiercely traditional, and as a result if a child is discovered to be a girl in the womb, one of 2 things happens: 1) they are aborted because "the family name must be passed on". Or so the reasoning goes. Or 2) (the main thrust of this argument) the girl, after being born, is put up for adoption... a great deal of girls from China get adopted this way! but in order to GET the girl HERE in the US is a LONG and ARDUOUS process... up to 6 months! and China often times does not let the girl leave until the prospective parents make a trip to China itself! Thus, not many couples finish the adoption process simply because the BUREAUCRACY makes almost IMPOSSIBLE.

Also, the vast majority of orphanages do not hold "unwanted pregnancy" children... but rather children who's parent's die and there are no next of kin, or children who's parents abandon them at LATER ages...

And finally, the BIG response to the orphanage question:... Is killing an innocent child who MAY be put in an orphanage REALLY a better answer than letting them be born and GIVING THEM A FIGHTING CHANCE TO PICK THEMSELVES UP FROM THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES, CHOOSE THEIR OWN DESTINY, AND LET THEIR VOICE BE HEARD?

"Sorry kid but you may not be adopted ever so we're gonna cut you up and suck you out piece by piece instead."?

are we really WILLING to be THAT society?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

... those last few words there are CAPITALIZED, NOT BY ME, BUT BY THE MEN OF THIS GREAT NATION WHO SAW FIT TO MAKE THOSE POINTS KNOWN IN OUR VERY OWN DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE. if we cannot even affirm the FIRST of those rights...

... we might as well not even HAVE a Declaration of Independence.

2) REALLY??? "A child born of rape is...

...JUST A CHILD THAT BRINGS BAD MEMORIES TO THE MOTHER"???

REALLY???

A CHILD IS A CHILD IS A CHILD!!!


LET ME REITERATE THAT

A CHILD IS A CHILD IS A CHILD!!!

THEY ARE A BLANK SLATE!!! COMPLETELY INNOCENT!!! THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT RAPE IS!!! THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT MURDER IS!!!

now let me sit back and cool down after that rant...

are the circumstances that surround the child's existence tragic and horrifying? YES! NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT! but again...

"WHY SHOULD *ONE* HEINOUS CRIME LEAD TO THE PUNISHMENT OF AN *INNOCENT*???

It would be like me being mugged and brutally beaten and then going out and killing the first innocent man I see simply because -HE REMINDS ME OF MY ATTACKER-???

if I did that, *I* would be sent to prison!!!


now I must be careful here because I DO NOT WANT TO PUNISH THE POOR WOMEN/GIRLS THAT THIS HAPPENS TO... FAR FROM IT!!!

I WANT TO *HELP* THEM!!!

and I believe that they CAN be helped! I've seen it happen! through counseling and support groups, ladies that have had this BARBARIC thing done to them can HEAL! granted, the scars will be with them, but they can still lead HAPPY HEALTHY lives!
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passingships Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
And they didn't ask to be born from rape either, so the would be mother isn't the only victim.
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NinjaWereWulf Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
exactly my point (^^,) thank you.
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passingships Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2016  Hobbyist Writer
Glad we agree. ^_^
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blomn Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2014
Dude, this was from over a year ago. The argument just got forgotten and dropped.
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NinjaWereWulf Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
1) the plain fact of the matter is... there are LOTS of couples who can't have children who WANT them DESPERATELY... is there a deficit on the number of orphanages? probably, but why kill children? Is it really our decision to say "well since this child MIGHT be in an orphanage for the rest of his or her life, it's more humane to kill him or her"?

2) there are different kinds of adoptions... like closed or semi-open adoption... basically once the woman has the baby, her job is over. the adoption parents step in, and the birth mother never has to see the child again.

OR, should the birth mother be curious about how the child she bore is doing (which DOES happen sometimes, even in rape cases), she can choose to contact the adoption agency, or adoption parents and have information presented to her (or even sometimes see the child in person)... in some cases like this, such meetings are cathartic for the birth mother, and allow her to move on with her life.

rape should NEVER happen... but unfortunately, bad things HAPPEN in life sometimes... that's the very NATURE of life... it's not RIGHT, but we CAN'T let such things ruin our lives... to do so is to allow the person (or persons) who caused that pain to have power over us...

also, it is not the unborn child's fault how he or she came to be... why should that innocent child be put to death for the sins of the father?
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LopsidedFrosty345 Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2017
Good question.
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blomn Featured By Owner Dec 4, 2012
Abortion isn't necessarily killing. I mean, would you rather give a child a horrible, hellish life ended by death by the hands of parents who are sick and tired of having a child, or prevent a hellish life before it starts? Abortion is like taking the child's life before it begins. I don't know about you, but there are so many times when I think, "Why couldn't I just have never lived? I'm sick of Americans and what they do to our country!"

I would answer the rest of your statements., but I'm tired and need rest.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2012
Did you really try and argue that rapists should use protection? They're RAPING a woman, why the hell would they care about using a condom when they're already attempting to torture a woman? They're not going to stop in the middle of it and go "you know, even though I'm in the process of abusing you, I really don't want kids in the future. Let me just put this rubber on so your suffering is slightly more bearable."

There is no good answer to that, because your friend is right. A woman should NEVER be forced to carry a child that she doesn't want, especially if it's caused by an act of torture.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Jul 23, 2013
Note it's about a late-term abortion. As in, an abortion that only happens if the mother is DYING.
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MarkWilder Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
She's not dying here.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Jul 24, 2013
I don't know who "She" is.
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MarkWilder Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
The woman getting the abortion.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2013
Then the abortion being performed is illegal.  Late-term abortions are illegal except for it being a life or death situation.
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blomn Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
I'm still in school! And I said I was flailing for an answer!

Your reply (the first part of it)to my idiotic comment really made me laugh so hard.

Well, I guess my one big problem with abortion is if you don't want a kid, then don't have sex in the first place! I don't understand why the hell Americans have sex, but then abort the children. I think the only exception for abortion should be if you're raped. Otherwise, just don't have sex in the first place.

I don't think rape should even happen.

I heard that there really are rapists who will use protection though.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2012
What does being in school have to do with this? We're talking about rape, not a math problem.

Because sex is a basic human need. You can't tell someone to die a lonely old virgin if they don't want kids, that just isn't realistic at all. Human beings are sexual creatures, we literally NEED sex to thrive.

Yes, because most rapists are friends/boy friends/family members, so the chances of them using a condom on a familiar face is more likely.
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justforfungirl Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012   Traditional Artist
Humans do not need sex to thrive. Thats like saying you have to have cake to be happy! Its pleasurable yea, but it isnt necessacary.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012
Sorry, but they do: [link]


Sex has been recognized as a human need by scientists and physiologists for a long, long time now. It's on the same level as the desire for food and warmth, that's how important it is.
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justforfungirl Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012   Traditional Artist
Do you have something more substantial than wiki to back that up? Its not always reliable
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2012
It's Maslow's Hierarchy of needs, something that anyone who takes a psychology or sociology class should know. The graph is the same on any website that talks about Maslow: [link]
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Sex has been recognized as a need in the psychological community (and medical community) for years.
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blomn Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
I said I'm still in school because if you're an adult, or at least in high school, you know a lot more than I do. I can't back up my beliefs as well as you can back up yours.

I'm living just fine without sex in my life. And maybe, humanity in general needs to stop putting sex as a first priority. I have a friend who's still in middle school, yet she's had her virginity taken away willfully. The reason for that? Her parents keep her up at night having sex. So she thought it was okay and had sex with her boyfriend in 7th grade. When she was 12.

And now I've got no idea why the hell I'm debating on this side of the issue, because I recently switched sides because I thought about it for a whole week, and researched child abuse, and thought of how banning abortion would effect child abuse. So, yeah.
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SpongeMuffin Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
Well at least you understand that you know less. I commend that! And encourage you to always continue educating yourself on these issues.

And I'm living fine without my sex life. But we're not in the majority. Humans were designed by nature to want sex, it's unnatural to to avoid it.

I agree sex needs to no longer be the main focus of society, and we can end that by no longer making sex taboo. Talk about sex openly, educate young kids and teenagers about sex, put sex in movies and TV shows. Sex will quickly lose it's oh so dirty charm and people will not longer care about it.
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blomn Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2012
There is a quote from Albert Einstein that I've always liked: ""Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."

I really do hope that sex will lose its "charm" soon.
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justforfungirl Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012   Traditional Artist
*robbing it of its purpose
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justforfungirl Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2012   Traditional Artist
Sex is supposed to have charm! It would be a tragedy if it lost it. But it also has a correct context, marriage. Sex has a purpose, to create children, so if you have sex outside of marriage you are robbing it of its marriage and making a game purely for physical enjoyment (most often for men) or a way to feel wanted and gratified (mostly for women). Now as far as how rape justifies abortion..it doesnt. Rape and abortion are wrong for the same reason! They are both acts of violence against a human being. Rape is a horrible tragedy and the ones committing that crime should be punished, but no babies concieved in rape ever did anything wrong- they are innocent and should not be killed for the crimes of thier father.
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nirysart Featured By Owner Oct 12, 2012   Traditional Artist
Wow very nice!this is amazing!
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Bjork-Anaiiz Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I can tell that those are the hands of young children.

And it is possible that the face they are covering is the face of a woman. Not all women need to look totally feminine, get real here.

What I see this as is, the fact that people will do anything to protect a child's right (more so the fetus's rights, cuz there are a lot of children suffering but people are working too hard to give a fetus more rights than a woman and ignoring these children) that it is preventing the woman to speak out.
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Kanadyjcaa Featured By Owner Mar 9, 2012
Hi! it's amazing... Can I draw this? :)
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